WTB more Karazhans!
Ahhh, Karazhan. We all know it, we all love it (unless that damned Terestrian Illhoof won’t drop the !$&*^! chest I need!), we’re all really freakin’ sick of it.
More, please.
While we’re nearing the end of it, we’re still presently in the “We’re All Just Guessing Here” stage of Wrath of the Lich King info. While a few shreds of info have been thrown our way, the rest is just idle speculation, so hopefully this ends up being wrong.
There are presently five “known” raid encounters so far in Wrath according to WoWWiki, and most currently are the raid encounters of the various winged instances. All of them are designated as 25 mans. No 10-man raids are currently planned at this point in time.
This is a huge mistake and I hope it’s just because we don’t have complete info yet.
Karazhan saved raiding. It let people who had never raided before realize that, hey, this was kind of fun. I know of three people off the top of my head who were playing prior to the release of BC, but had never raided before. After doing some Karazhan, they decided they liked it and joined hardcore progression guilds. Karazhan created the next generation of raiders, the ones who were in Gruul’s, SSC, TK and beyond after your top tier of raiders had all of them cleared by mid-summer.
Also, it’s much easier to get ten people together as opposed to 25. One of the big stumbling blocks for Shuffle was after having Kara on a one night clear (Karathons, woot!), we did want to dip our toes in the 25-man pool, but found it impossible to go from casual raiding guild with about fifteen or so steady regulars to the full 25. We came close, but then lost a couple people due to other commitments and/or burnout (plus myself in a week or so due to real life stuff mentioned below!) and that was pretty much the last nail in the coffin. We did get HKM and Gruul down twice thanks to the help of a lot of friends, though we were reduced to having our friends ask friends “Hey, wanna do Gruul?” It shouldn’t come to that. A level 80 ten man raid? No problem at all.
My dream for WotLK’s endgame is two level 80 10 man’s consecutive in progression then however many 25 mans, followed by one more 10 man right before the raid that Arthas is waiting in. I know it’s a pipe dream, but really, Blizzard needs to take a look at the runaway success of Karazhan and base the Wrath end game off of it.
Tags: I use the long-winded post category for everything, karazhan, raiding, wotlk
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March 3, 2008 at 5:36 am
I agree totally with you. Kara is the UBRS(But much much bigger) of TBC. I think its inevitable that blizz will make more 10 mans – they love them i think – hense Kara and Zul’Aman. (Both of which push guilds to the limits until you’re geared then become quite easy.
Kara for example – in the start it was hard work. Now our guild clear the place in 3.5 hours.
March 6, 2008 at 6:22 pm
The think I liked best about 5-mans.. is that there are 12 of them to choose from. It does lead to dilution of the field.. but it at least gives you some variety so you’re not just running Shattered Halls over and over and over again.. you can intersperse Steamvaults and Mech in there.
At the Kara level there’s only Kara.. and then more Kara.. and then more Kara. You really can’t start ZA until you’re totally done with Kara. So you’re stuck.. week after week.. clearing Kara. The same bosses.. the same strats. Yawn.
I want.. at least
5-10 progressivly harder 5-mans
then 3-5 equivalently hard 10-mans that are at the same level as 1-2 of the “really hard 5-mans
Then 3-5 equivalently hard 25-mans that are at the same level as 1-2 “really hard” 10-mans.
Choice.
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